sig 556
BackThe SIGARMS 556 is the most anticipated 5.56 Carbine in the last 5 years. Here the first shots with the new gun.
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robadonkadonk (November 27, 2008 at 12:31 am)
If you're asking why military doesn't switch over to this type of rifle it's mostly because of cost. Just because military and private contractors don't use it doesn't mean that it's a bad rifle, it's that they can get a working model on a cheaper contract.
sureshot649 (November 28, 2008 at 2:58 pm)
Ok, I'll share a quote from a guy in SF in regards to the SIG:
"The Swiss have no idea how to build a rifle for combat."
There were contractors, and SF, who used the SIG for awhile in the Sandbox. Within a year, none of them were still using the SIG, for various reasons.
And before you suggest it, it nothing had to do with politics/cost/logistics/etc., but had everything to do with the SIG being a poor choice for a combat rifle, outside of Switzerland..
"The Swiss have no idea how to build a rifle for combat."
There were contractors, and SF, who used the SIG for awhile in the Sandbox. Within a year, none of them were still using the SIG, for various reasons.
And before you suggest it, it nothing had to do with politics/cost/logistics/etc., but had everything to do with the SIG being a poor choice for a combat rifle, outside of Switzerland..
robadonkadonk (November 28, 2008 at 3:23 pm)
Really? Because I've shot with a group of Green Berets who've said the exact opposite, they wished they had a rifle like the Sig out on the battlefield. It is one of the better rifles out there IMHO.
sureshot649 (November 29, 2008 at 8:55 am)
Shooting it on a range and admiring it's characteristics, on a range, is completely different from carrying/using it in combat.
Its op-rod breaks frequently, it's overly heavy, it doesn't take well to add-on's. The only real advantage it has is accuracy, which frankly, is not much better than a properly vetted AR..
Its op-rod breaks frequently, it's overly heavy, it doesn't take well to add-on's. The only real advantage it has is accuracy, which frankly, is not much better than a properly vetted AR..
robadonkadonk (November 29, 2008 at 10:01 am)
The operating rod breaks frequently? Let me tell you something, the range where I go had one for rental that fired 17,000 rounds before the bolt broke. It wasn't even cleaned for roughly 6,000 of those rounds.
It is a bit on the heavy side. And I'd personally swap out the factory forend for a quad rail, but that's jusy my preference.
Everytime I take mine to the range I get two or three AR boys who wished they'd bought Sig instead. The only downside I can see is less available parts.
It is a bit on the heavy side. And I'd personally swap out the factory forend for a quad rail, but that's jusy my preference.
Everytime I take mine to the range I get two or three AR boys who wished they'd bought Sig instead. The only downside I can see is less available parts.
sureshot649 (November 29, 2008 at 3:25 pm)
"the range.."
I stopped reading right there..
I stopped reading right there..
stratstringbender (November 25, 2008 at 8:55 pm)
Disagree with what, the fact that a 7:1 twist rate can cause light varmint bullets to disintegrate? How od you disagree with facts? Some spec ops guys like 77 grain bullets of which 1:7 twists work awesome but few shoot this kind of stuff. Sometime back, American Rifleman mag. posted optimal twists for various .223 bullet weights.
sureshot649 (November 28, 2008 at 2:53 pm)
Uh, I didn't say a fucking thing about bullet-loads or twist-rates.
However, you're wrong that SF doesn't shoot 77gr..
However, you're wrong that SF doesn't shoot 77gr..
stratstringbender (November 28, 2008 at 5:26 pm)
For your 2nd comment, I can see you have trouble reading because I just can't seem to find any sentence where I wrote anything saying what SF does or does not shoot. Of course, SF guys use whatever they want from AKs to the out of service M60s with the pistol grip and anything in between...anything goes there. Surely, some of them do use the very heavy bullets where the faster twist rate is needed for physical stabilization.
sureshot649 (November 29, 2008 at 8:57 am)
"Some spec ops guys like 77 grain bullets of which 1:7 twists work awesome but few shoot this kind of stuff."
That's where you said it.
Either way, my original comment was directed at Botox124, not you.
That's where you said it.
Either way, my original comment was directed at Botox124, not you.
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